Blackpill Wrist size analogy - The ultimate androgen pill

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THIS THREAD WAS UTTER SUICIDEFUEL FOR ME, HOLY SHIT I CAN'T COPE WITH MY 6.25 INCH WRISTS EXTREMELY BRUTAL, MY MOTHER MOGS ME, MY GF HAS THE SAME SIZE AS MINE, EVERY SINGLE MALE MOGGED ME. THANKS OP, WANTED TO START GOING TO THE GYM TOMORROW BUT NOW IM JUST GOING TO LDAR

THUS EXPLAINS WHY EVEN AFTER LIFTING FOR 6 MONTHS PEOPLE WOULD TELL ME WHEN AM I GOING TO START LIFTING, ITS ALL FUCKING POINTLESS IF YOU HAVE SUBHUMAN 12YO GIRL WRISTS, YOU CAN NEVER BE AS MASCULAR AS 7-9 INCH WRIST GUYS
 
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Chintuck22 said:
Actually the bone density pill.


As a man, you are supposed to have a much larger bone structure than a female, provided there are androgen receptors which differ male dimorphism from the female neoteny
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*Example of neoteny VS dimorphism*



I will start this thread by saying that wrist size in regards to attracting other sex, doesn't necessarily matter, but evolutionary speaking, a thicker and larger bone structure, specifically wrist in this case; Tendons can support a large amount of force without collapsing, which gives an advantage in fighting and carrying heavy objects around, it certainly plays an role in dominating other men and climbing the social hierarchy (from the evolutionary perspective as said).

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Forearm is made up from 2 bones (Ulna & radius), which makes the wrist, so if these bones are small (malformed), this is why you are, the way you are






Underlying cause of thin wrist


Cause of the small and fragile wrist is unknown. Obviously genetics are responsible for androgen receptor distribution, but the thing which inhibits androgen receptors might be responsible for smaller than expected bone anthropometry. Combined with micronutrients and protein deficiency:
  • Exposure to plastic products which release xenoestrogens. This is actually significant as they found microplastics in the placenta of aborted baby, so neglecting that xenoestrogens are potent is plain stupid, there is evidence everywhere
  • Micronutrients can be tremendously reduced by plant food (if plants are not prepared correctly)
    • For example we have phytic acid which binds to the minerals and blocks them from being absorbable. That's why you need to prepare your seeds in a correct way to reduce the phytic content down to minimum.
    • We also have the oxalates found in leafy greens and legumes. INTERESTING THING IS - If you eat the spinach raw without boiling it, you will die on the spot just from a small portion of spinach, so that's why we prepare plants to make them digestible. Oxalates binds minerals as well and can cause kidney stones.
    • Mycotoxins can inhibit the protein synthesis (will explain later). Mycotoxins are a result of poorly prepared and stored grain, when it get attacked by a fungus, so it ends up in your plate, or an animals eats it (ends up in it's milk or meat). You can get rid of mycotoxins by growing your own food and feeding your own animals with non-infected grains unfortunately.
    • We all know that fat soluble vitamins (A,D,E,K) are crucial for bone developing, beta-sitosterol from the plants can reduce cholesterol, and basically reduce all of your fat soluble vitamin context.
  • The quality of your food should be significantly higher if you want to optimize the developmental growth, most animals are fed grain diet which is what you want to avoid, you want to get yourself a grass fed dairy and get a fermented grain if you're want to buy a grain-based product.
  • It's obvious but protein deficiency is the main thing as to why your... Organism in general is malnourished. Protein is the main building block for any cell, then it utilizes the vitamins, once it's consumed. Basically you want an animal based high quality protein in your diet, because animal protein is easily absorbable than the plant protein (plant protein has to go through protein sparing to get absorbed, which can stress the metabolism). If you look at the Indian population, they are protein deficient in general, so their stature is shorter than expected, most Indians are vegan:
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Obviously, there are many more things which contributes to human development, but i'm not going to give a lecture, this deserve a special thread. We want to talk about wrist size and androgens in this post specifically.








WRIST SIZE ANALOGY




Anything above 18cm is considered large


Due to estrogens and things, our wrist as well as the bone structure as a whole has become more smaller

Your average man has a wrist circumference between 6.5 - 7"





Brock lesnar has 7.5" wrist size according to my calculations (forearm×arm circumreference)




8-9" is considerate large. There's no suprise as to why many athletes with thick wrists and joints are successful in strength sports such as powerlifting, wrestling, weightlifting...




9" is rare as fuck and i was only able to find it highlighted in successful armwrestling competitors, thick bones are the biggest androgenic trait and if you are the fragile cuck like Deleted member 11748 @GigaChang you would get your skull crushed just by 1 punch from these people:



And if anything bigger than 9" exists, you can only get it by attaining extra bodyfat so the fat will cushion the wrist, but it is not humanly attainable unless you are 7'5 tallfag who had a huge estradiol spike or some shit










Thick wrist and Kinematic advantages


Small wrists means weak force centre, and if the centre is weak then even big muscles wont save you; a natural wide and thick framed chad will always.

Big muscles cant compensate for a small bone structure

lets have a Indian curry manlet with 5.5 inches wrist but huge forearm muscles, biceps and triceps:



... On his small bone structure theres less surface where the muscles can directly grow on, so the more muscles mass he gains the faster the muscles will grow away from the actual centre (the wristbone), thus all the force which gets generated in the muscles wont be able to be exerted through your wrists, because your brain knows that your actual bone and tendon structure cant support all the force from your muscles without collapsing



if the centre (the bone) is thick and dense then the total force limit is automatically higher, the brain feels more comfortable with exerting maximum force if it knows that theres a solid thick centre to support the generated force

this is why the arm on the right could exert the same (if not even more) force as the arm on the left, despite less muscle mass

the tighter the muscles are around your bones, the more total force you can exert. - “When your muscles are really tight, your bones are held in place to a higher degree,” says Davidson. “That makes your brain feel more comfortable to exert more total force during your lift. So it basically flips a switch that turns on more strength. "

big bones means more surface where the muscles can directly grow on, the generated force from the muscles will thus be transferred more faster and effectively through your centre (wrist bones)

simple physics


















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explain me how I have robust face bones wide shoulders and ribcage but 6.5 inch wrist
 
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I have 18,5 cm wrist at 16 but small 15 cm dick, bad results at the gym and little facial hair. What's the matter with me?
 
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another day another suifuel thread
 
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Not having big wrists can actually be a plus in some cases. My wrist is 7.25 inches and when I was at my best at the gym I had about a 17 inch arm pumped up and it was more impressive looking than 8 inch wrist guy with the same size arm. I think the most important thing is having wide enough shoulders to get the V look as long as you are decent at building muscle.
 
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larsanova69 said:
Nahh face matters more
well yeah of course but small wrist means that we haven‘t developed well. So we would have had a better face if the conditions were better
 
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Chintuck22 said:
That sort of confirms that bone density is androgenic

if you think about androgen distributions for a second, you have the guys such as Copemaxxing @Copemaxxing who appears to have thicker wrists but thinner ankles. This is where the genetic part comes in, androgen distribution is genetically determined

Likewise, i have a thick ankles but a slightly thinner wrist and upper body, the genetic is underlying part here.
do wrists mog ankles?
 
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volcelfatcel said:
Hand size may seem irrelevant but holy fuck is it vital. The androgenic signals it has is massive. Wrist size is quite literally a benefit since more strength

Very brutal honestly, even cavill gets made fun of.

Copers in this gay site would rather prefer to be some androgynous pretty boy fuck though instead of a dimorphic mogger who screams and demands respect from men and also gets women.
yeah brb worshipping chico cuck as a masc ogre just cause he has big hands bruh
 
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I think it’s a lot more complicated than this thread suggests.

i have a wrist/hand size similar to a 5ft woman yet I could bench more than guys with normal wrist sizes. I’ve also out boxed plenty guys.
 
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TsarTsar444 said:
THIS THREAD WAS UTTER SUICIDEFUEL FOR ME, HOLY SHIT I CAN'T COPE WITH MY 6.25 INCH WRISTS EXTREMELY BRUTAL, MY MOTHER MOGS ME, MY GF HAS THE SAME SIZE AS MINE, EVERY SINGLE MALE MOGGED ME. THANKS OP, WANTED TO START GOING TO THE GYM TOMORROW BUT NOW IM JUST GOING TO LDAR

THUS EXPLAINS WHY EVEN AFTER LIFTING FOR 6 MONTHS PEOPLE WOULD TELL ME WHEN AM I GOING TO START LIFTING, ITS ALL FUCKING POINTLESS IF YOU HAVE SUBHUMAN 12YO GIRL WRISTS, YOU CAN NEVER BE AS MASCULAR AS 7-9 INCH WRIST GUYS

Dude, relax. I have got 6.5 inch wrists... and it's not a dealbreaker. You can build up your forearms to compensate. In terms of aesthetics, wrist size doesn't matter. If anything, small wrists will make your arms look bigger.

After 2 years 3 months lifting natural I can bench 130kg and deadlift 220kg at 85kg bodyweight beltless. I don't use straps for either so grip is not a limiting factor, despite my small wrists. Also, got a monstrous weighted chin up - pb is +50kg x 7 reps, which also requires a strong asf grip.

My numbers aren't amazing but they are for sure above average for someone that has been lifting for 2 years. The point is that wrists aren't a big bottleneck to your strength potential.
 
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So can anyone explain how tf do i mog my dad 4.5 inches in height and yet his hands and bone structure is way bigger than me...

He is a robust turbomanlet while i am a thin boned manlet..
what went wrong??

Did i have low dht during puberty or not eating enough hurt me i was skinny af during my teen years
 
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Kingkellz said:
Yes I'm aware but I can't stand not having mogger wrist and hand size. Hands in general and hand size is something so many women notice and comment about IRL.
Small hands = death.

Look at women shitting on Henry Cavill himself for having 'baby hands'
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Meanwhile Armie Hammer and this woman going crazy about his fucking hands!
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from this thread https://lookism.net/threads/whore-a...cit-18-sexts-exposed-gtfih-megathread.647394/
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Brutal that even a man like him gets shit on for having tiny wrists.
 
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VeryFuglyNiyguhs said:
Brutal that even a man like him gets shit on for having tiny wrists.
Man I envy my dad for his insanely huge wrists. If I had his bone thickness and density, I could have 20->30 pounds more muscle mass on my frame.
 
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VeryFuglyNiyguhs said:
Brutal that even a man like him gets shit on for having tiny wrists.
This is why height and frame are so fucking important, even moreso than face imo.
VeryFuglyNiyguhs said:
Man I envy my dad for his insanely huge wrists. If I had his bone thickness and density, I could have 20->30 pounds more muscle mass on my frame.
My wrist and hand



His

 
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Fucking hate my mom for not giving me enough protein as a child, i have 6.3 inch wrists and hands as big as her. At least everything else is average
 
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I feel for you guys, I have 8 inch wrists, but I’m only 5’7. Having big wrists mean nothing if you’re short.
 
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Overrated. My wrists are small as fuck for my height but it's definitely not falio. Hands small too. Just makes muscles look bigger in comparison if you have muscle that is
 
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thank god for my large bone structure, large frame etc I look like a bodybuilder even though I never worked out at all in my life
 
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I'm starting to doubt studies on the average wrist size.




I measured mine at about 6.9 to 7 inches and theyre tiny.
 
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Chintuck22 said:
The quality of your food should be significantly higher if you want to optimize the developmental growth, most animals are fed grain diet which is what you want to avoid, you want to get yourself a grass fed dairy and get a fermented grain if you're want to buy a grain-based product.
So should we avoid grains all together? wheat, oats, cornmeal, barley, cereal, Bread, pasta, grits, tortillas, popcorn, rice, and oatmeal should we avoid all these?


Or eating enough protein while also having these in your diet wont make a difference? Basically eat a shit ton of food and enough animal based protein like meat.
 
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Potentialcel said:
How accurate is this graph?

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found this online

Not to sure.

That study I posted suggest I'm about in the 60th to 70th percentile wrist size wise. But that study like dick size studies, takes men of all groups. Ranging from men with low T, low dht, men with klinefelters or hypogonadism, hgh/igf-1 deficiencies, and Asian men.

If those were removed the average value would be 2 inches higher.
 
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VeryFuglyNiyguhs said:
Not to sure.

That study I posted suggest I'm about in the 60th to 70th percentile wrist size wise. But that study like dick size studies, takes men of all groups. Ranging from men with low T, low dht, men with klinefelters or hypogonadism, hgh/igf-1 deficiencies, and Asian men.

If those were removed the average value would be 2 inches higher.
2 inches is a whole gender in between. Id say 1 inch optimistically.
 
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Potentialcel said:
2 inches is a whole gender in between. Id say 1 inch optimistically.
Well like I said, mine are supposedly in the 60th->70th percentile, but they aren't big at all.

Average wrist size should be 7 inches for a man.
 
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My wrist is small, 15cm but my ankles are very big 24cm. What do I do?
 
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Daw said:
My wrist is small, 15cm but my ankles are very big 24cm. What do I do?
are you fat?
 
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if ur still growing optimize bone growth, dont think about the ankles
 
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Potentialcel said:
if ur still growing optimize bone growth, dont think about the ankles
I like my ankles, its masculine
 
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If you eat the spinach raw without boiling it, you will die on the spot just from a small portion of spinach
WTf I read this sentence 10 times but I still can't understand.
I eat raw spinach almost everyday and I'm well
 
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terminus said:
WTf I read this sentence 10 times but I still can't understand.
I eat raw spinach almost everyday and I'm well
When oxalate levels are high, there's a greater chance it will bind to calcium, forming kidney stones. Because oxalates bind to minerals like calcium, they can prevent your body from absorbing beneficial nutrients in your digestive tract

 
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Chintuck22 said:
When oxalate levels are high, there's a greater chance it will bind to calcium, forming kidney stones. Because oxalates bind to minerals like calcium, they can prevent your body from absorbing beneficial nutrients in your digestive tract

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FUck I eat so much things from this chart.
BUt spinach are good nutrient intake, is boiling them also going to reduce its nutrient content ?
YOu should do a nutrition thread bro
 
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terminus said:
FUck I eat so much things from this chart.
BUt spinach are good nutrient intake, is boiling them also going to reduce its nutrient content ?
YOu should do a nutrition thread bro
Yeah true

Boiling markedly reduced soluble oxalate content by 30-87% and was more effective than steaming (5-53%) and baking (used only for potatoes, no oxalate loss). An assessment of the oxalate content of cooking water used for boiling and steaming revealed an approximately 100% recovery of oxalate losses.

Look at this chart dude;

 
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Chintuck22 said:
Yeah true

Boiling markedly reduced soluble oxalate content by 30-87% and was more effective than steaming (5-53%) and baking (used only for potatoes, no oxalate loss). An assessment of the oxalate content of cooking water used for boiling and steaming revealed an approximately 100% recovery of oxalate losses.

Look at this chart dude;

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guess i'll boil them now, but it sucks that it reduces other nutrients as well.

In fact, boiling reduces vitamin C content more than any other cooking method. Broccoli, spinach, and lettuce may lose up to 50% or more of their vitamin C when boiled
I could probably eat some vegetable raw like broccoli to get higher nutrient intake
Are there any vegetable without enzyme inhibitors I could eat raw ?
 
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Chintuck22 said:
Someone mentioned that thick wrists looks ogre:



But on a 6'5 man, a 8" will look normal in comparison than it will look on a 5'10 man.

It's all about the proportions, androgen distribution, upbringing... cyclical argument
I'm 6'7" with 6.5" wrists.
 
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Picrel is my wrist, its unironically 19 cm but looks small compared to my huge hand (can reach 13th on piano)
 

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Chintuck22 said:
Well actually, acromegaly patients have increased hand size EVEN after they're done growing




But self inducing acromegaly is dangerous as fuck


I think that PenileFacialSurgery @PenileFacialSurgery can elab more about HGH for thicker hand growth, he made this thread;


Niko @Xen also reported a growth in his hands after he's been using HGH
I also had a good increase of my wrists from 7.4 to 7.8inches with just help of mk677

it could be genetics too because my father has 9 - 9.5 inches wrists he was done growing at age 21 - 23

Also check out https://looksmax.org/threads/i-might-have-acromegaly.349459/
 
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Nonstoplooksmax said:
I also had a good increase of my wrists from 7.4 to 7.8inches with just help of mk677
was that from topical use on the wrist area?
 
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Renaissance.Chad said:
was that from topical use on the wrist area?
no just mk677 liquid

wht do u mean topical use?
 
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Nonstoplooksmax said:
no just mk677 liquid

wht do u mean topical use?
Fuck, I read it as Vitamin K2 Mk-4, which can come in liquid form. Topical means on the body.
 
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Chintuck22 said:
Actually the bone density pill.


As a man, you are supposed to have a much larger bone structure than a female, provided there are androgen receptors which differ male dimorphism from the female neoteny
View attachment 1143551


*Example of neoteny VS dimorphism*



I will start this thread by saying that wrist size in regards to attracting other sex, doesn't necessarily matter, but evolutionary speaking, a thicker and larger bone structure, specifically wrist in this case; Tendons can support a large amount of force without collapsing, which gives an advantage in fighting and carrying heavy objects around, it certainly plays an role in dominating other men and climbing the social hierarchy (from the evolutionary perspective as said).

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Forearm is made up from 2 bones (Ulna & radius), which makes the wrist, so if these bones are small (malformed), this is why you are, the way you are






Underlying cause of thin wrist


Cause of the small and fragile wrist is unknown. Obviously genetics are responsible for androgen receptor distribution, but the thing which inhibits androgen receptors might be responsible for smaller than expected bone anthropometry. Combined with micronutrients and protein deficiency:
  • Exposure to plastic products which release xenoestrogens. This is actually significant as they found microplastics in the placenta of aborted baby, so neglecting that xenoestrogens are potent is plain stupid, there is evidence everywhere
  • Micronutrients can be tremendously reduced by plant food (if plants are not prepared correctly)
    • For example we have phytic acid which binds to the minerals and blocks them from being absorbable. That's why you need to prepare your seeds in a correct way to reduce the phytic content down to minimum.
    • We also have the oxalates found in leafy greens and legumes. INTERESTING THING IS - If you eat the spinach raw without boiling it, you will die on the spot just from a small portion of spinach, so that's why we prepare plants to make them digestible. Oxalates binds minerals as well and can cause kidney stones.
    • Mycotoxins can inhibit the protein synthesis (will explain later). Mycotoxins are a result of poorly prepared and stored grain, when it get attacked by a fungus, so it ends up in your plate, or an animals eats it (ends up in it's milk or meat). You can get rid of mycotoxins by growing your own food and feeding your own animals with non-infected grains unfortunately.
    • We all know that fat soluble vitamins (A,D,E,K) are crucial for bone developing, beta-sitosterol from the plants can reduce cholesterol, and basically reduce all of your fat soluble vitamin context.
  • The quality of your food should be significantly higher if you want to optimize the developmental growth, most animals are fed grain diet which is what you want to avoid, you want to get yourself a grass fed dairy and get a fermented grain if you're want to buy a grain-based product.
  • It's obvious but protein deficiency is the main thing as to why your... Organism in general is malnourished. Protein is the main building block for any cell, then it utilizes the vitamins, once it's consumed. Basically you want an animal based high quality protein in your diet, because animal protein is easily absorbable than the plant protein (plant protein has to go through protein sparing to get absorbed, which can stress the metabolism). If you look at the Indian population, they are protein deficient in general, so their stature is shorter than expected, most Indians are vegan:
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Obviously, there are many more things which contributes to human development, but i'm not going to give a lecture, this deserve a special thread. We want to talk about wrist size and androgens in this post specifically.








WRIST SIZE ANALOGY




Anything above 18cm is considered large


Due to estrogens and things, our wrist as well as the bone structure as a whole has become more smaller

Your average man has a wrist circumference between 6.5 - 7"





Brock lesnar has 7.5" wrist size according to my calculations (forearm×arm circumreference)




8-9" is considerate large. There's no suprise as to why many athletes with thick wrists and joints are successful in strength sports such as powerlifting, wrestling, weightlifting...




9" is rare as fuck and i was only able to find it highlighted in successful armwrestling competitors, thick bones are the biggest androgenic trait and if you are the fragile cuck like Deleted member 11748 @GigaChang you would get your skull crushed just by 1 punch from these people:



And if anything bigger than 9" exists, you can only get it by attaining extra bodyfat so the fat will cushion the wrist, but it is not humanly attainable unless you are 7'5 tallfag who had a huge estradiol spike or some shit










Thick wrist and Kinematic advantages


Small wrists means weak force centre, and if the centre is weak then even big muscles wont save you; a natural wide and thick framed chad will always.

Big muscles cant compensate for a small bone structure

lets have a Indian curry manlet with 5.5 inches wrist but huge forearm muscles, biceps and triceps:



... On his small bone structure theres less surface where the muscles can directly grow on, so the more muscles mass he gains the faster the muscles will grow away from the actual centre (the wristbone), thus all the force which gets generated in the muscles wont be able to be exerted through your wrists, because your brain knows that your actual bone and tendon structure cant support all the force from your muscles without collapsing



if the centre (the bone) is thick and dense then the total force limit is automatically higher, the brain feels more comfortable with exerting maximum force if it knows that theres a solid thick centre to support the generated force

this is why the arm on the right could exert the same (if not even more) force as the arm on the left, despite less muscle mass

the tighter the muscles are around your bones, the more total force you can exert. - “When your muscles are really tight, your bones are held in place to a higher degree,” says Davidson. “That makes your brain feel more comfortable to exert more total force during your lift. So it basically flips a switch that turns on more strength. "

big bones means more surface where the muscles can directly grow on, the generated force from the muscles will thus be transferred more faster and effectively through your centre (wrist bones)

simple physics


















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Chico dont have thick wrist any many dismorphic mm
 
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