PROOF THAT ENVIRONMENT AFFECTS FACE ( ⚠ MECHANICAL ⚠)

Me and my bro all grew in similar environment, with similar diet and similar breastfeeding period duration.

1st child: 5'10.5, negative orbital vector, scleral show
2nd: 5'9.5, positive orbital vector, no scleral show
3rd: 6ft, positive orbital vector, hooded eyes (thanks to good fat distribution), no scleral show
4th: predicted to be 6'1-6'2, negative orbital vector, no scleral show

Traits we all have and our dad too: high set eyebrows, good eyelashes, balding, voice deeper than 95hz, full beard, lot of bodyhair, big lips, no square jaw, bad acne during adolescence, moles, above average IQ

Dad grew in different environnement (more physically active, diet containing more vegetable, less meat...)

It's mostly genetics and genetic recombination that determine your fate
If one of you had bad posture, wasn't breastfeed, extracted several teeths, mouthbreathe entire life... Ever since birth, then you'll see that environment can have an impact, for some people more severe than the others
 
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You fuck you dont have shortface syndrome your midface is just compact
I have it fuckhead. I have no teeth exposure while smiling
 
Jeff Cavalaiere would be chad if he wasn't affected by environment, as you can see - He have pretty good cheekbones, bigonial width, chin size, flat occiput, forehead/eye ratios

and regardless of his UEE which breaks his eye area, he have pretty good hooding and those things i mentioned are the LEAST affectionated By MECHANICAL Environment, tho i think they are predetermined in womb (Prenatal T), and his growth pattern was just nothing more than genetics.

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Hovewer he have one of the worst midfaces, and we know that flat, recessed, and negatively angled midface causes:

  • Prominent under-eye circles :yes:
  • Negative orbital vector :yes:
  • Sclera (Not severe in Jeff's case)
  • Low FWHR :yes:
  • Elongated skull appearance :yes:
  • Hooked and long nose :yes:
  • Long philtrum (in some cases)
  • Gummy smile (in some cases)
  • Recessed chin :yes:
  • High gonial angle / Short ramus :yes:
  • Low positioned hyoid :yes:
  • ----------------------------
  • :yes: - means Jeff have it

SO jeff posses all the trait i've just mentioned some are more severe than the others, strange isn't it?

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remember they are caused by midface manipulation, and he would be chad if his midface grew right, so many bones are connected to midface, yet it is affected by environment by most, why?


-The problems we see today are common, and i'm talking specifically about environment influence on face,

(Posture might be of minor influence, but this guy explained well the environment affection).







if you want to prevent bad growth or possibly enchance good growth of your midface, pay attention to:

Don't mouthbreath at all Keeping your lip seal and teeths together - is going to grow your jaw and midface evenly, you won't have bite problems if you're doing so, no convexity angle (A.k.a no recessed midface).

Have good spinal posture - Might be cope but everything bad has it's consequences, so you can't get away with poor posture. I believe it caused downard grown maxilla and scleral show in the first place.

No tooth extraction (or atleast have less as possible) - Another thing that might be legit is tooth extraction during childhood, but this only applies until you reach age 10. During the period of primary teeth eruption, and having deciduous teeth fully developed. Deciduous teeths act as a space maintainers for primary thing. If you remove decidous teeth to early (From a case of cariers or whatever), the adjacent teeth will colapse onto each other and start occupying the space of the lost tooth, and that has the domino effect which can fuck up your palate for the rest of your teeths because all the other teeths will erupt in the improper position. I can confirm this is legit myself

(👆Proof this is legit)


No tooth extraction at all - We aren't 'meant to have less teeths', god created us to have all teeths and extraction is going to leave you with recession and TMJ complications, this greatly implies that environment theory is legit once again.

Breastfeeding for atleast 2 years or more - Is as same as MIMICING MEWING, so basically breastfeeding will have the same beneift on your kid just like mewing does, see picture:

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If you look at the babies, they naturally develop proper oral posture through breastfeeding, but i've seen no mother who breastfeed their child for more than few months. Regardless, kids who are breastfeed don't have cavities - Why? Because human milk is alkaline, and you can prevent yourself from having tooth cavity if you're eating alkaline food. (Very long subject i'll probably make thread out of it).



Hard mastication - Is going to improve bigonial width (If you have decent masseter insertions), and lower your ramus overtime. It also has some good craniofacial benefits if you start from an young age.

No thumb sucking - Cause it'll cause open bite overtime

(Optional) Facepulling from an young age - If you're screwed by environment, you could reverse that damage to an extend. Right now, @nelson facepuller is the best you can wear, and it's gonna do the job for you. Facepulling is just worth mentioning
Yeah, don't mind double spoilers cause sarge cannot fix it either, Xenforo problem

Those are some major things that environment influences when it comes to facial growth (Of mechanical influence), so if Jeff managed to fix these things, he would be gigachad at the time. Of course, i haven't talked about environment influence on hormones > and how that further influence facial growth pattern (Masculinization), that's gonna be next thread (if this one gets big attention), but for now this is how MECHANICAL influence changes facial growth pattern !






FOR THE END, DESTROYING THE GENETICS COPERS AND SKEPTICISM
- So why i haven't used any study to back up my claims??? Cause i don't need to, this is already legit thing and i don't need some fucking studies to prove what's called - Common sense.

- YOU CAN'T GET AWAY WITH HAVING SHITTY... JUST ANY OF THE TRAIT I'VE MENTIONED IN MY THREAD, you NAME it, IT DOES HAVE IT'S CONSEQUENCES, AND IT WILL INDEED IMAPCT YOU ON ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

- High IQ individuals will know that having good posture is better than having the bad one (Which is pretty OBVIOUS thing... isn't it) THEY DON'T NEED FUCKING STUDIES to be able to understand what's called common sense. You would grown better for sure if you've fixed the thing i said in thread REGARDLESS OF YOUR PSL. So "It's 100% genetic bro" argument falls down the water.


... And yeah, IT'S ONLY PROOF THAT ENVIRONMENT CAN AFFECTS FACIAL GROWTH TO AN CERTAIN DOMAIN. And NO you CAN'T REVERSE WHAT'S ALREADY DAMAGED FOR YEARS you silly dumbass. Facepulling might help, but we don't want to treat the symptoms but rather causes. Or atleast i do, many copers probably don't care about this shit either so i wouldn't need to write this in the first place if they cared.

Good thread.
 
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shit thread, kys op
 
My posture was fucked from a young age so there's nothing i can do.
 
does this really need to be proven? giga low IQ if anyone believes otherwise. can we just move the fuck on
 
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Don't really believe this shit about environment tbh, the environment obviously has an impact on how you look, but I've read somewhere that it has a very minimal effect. Most of it is genes and gene recombination
 
does this really need to be proven? giga low IQ if anyone believes otherwise. can we just move the fuck on
Read the replies.. Everyone who says otherwise is utterly retarded like @MewingJBP and @Aquiillaxo... I knew moroncels are gonna say shit so i destroyed them with counter-arguments
 
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Mouth breathing destroyed me I could've been near chadlite lmao :lul:
One thing I don't often see being talked about is how it affects orbital, like the rest of the face they become more vertically grown rather than horizontally grown, and it can cause fucking myopia which *ding ding ding* I have too on top of all the other classical symptoms of mouth breathing jfl
 
Read the replies.. Everyone who says otherwise is utterly retarded like @MewingJBP and @Aquiillaxo... I knew moroncels are gonna say shit so i destroyed them with counter-arguments


Let me rephrase, I do believe in the environment playing a part in how good you look but not to the extent that it will completely change how you look and only minimally change it. Mewing maybe could have got you a better jawline if you did it when you were young but to what extent? Probably 5% better MAXIMUM. Chewing hard foods could definitely make your jawline stronger, but not that much.


East Asians tend to have rounder and softer features due to a soft diet for thousands of years and there are heaps of studies that show this. If an easy asian boy ate really hard food it would definitely make his face look more defined , but it will never ever give him the model jawline wit. Because his genes are predisposed to having more feminine and rounder features and there's nothing he can do about that
 
Let me rephrase, I do believe in the environment playing a part in how good you look but not to the extent that it will completely change how you look and only minimally change it. Mewing maybe could have got you a better jawline if you did it when you were young but to what extent? Probably 5% better MAXIMUM. Chewing hard foods could definitely make your jawline stronger, but not that much.


East Asians tend to have rounder and softer features due to a soft diet for thousands of years and there are heaps of studies that show this. If an easy asian boy ate really hard food it would definitely make his face look more defined , but it will never ever give him the model jawline wit. Because his genes are predisposed to having more feminine and rounder features and there's nothing he can do about that
Mouth breathing destroyed me I could've been near chadlite lmao :lul:
One thing I don't often see being talked about is how it affects orbital, like the rest of the face they become more vertically grown rather than horizontally grown, and it can cause fucking myopia which *ding ding ding* I have too on top of all the other classical symptoms of mouth breathing jfl

This is just mechanical influence of the environment

Keep in mind that nutrition, the habits, and abuse of certain chemicals (Such as HGH, roids...) can outperform genetics to an certain domain.

So my point is that it still DOES something to you. You can't deny enviroment, imagine if you were put on HGH at the age of 9? Like bro..
 
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This is just mechanical influence of the environment

Keep in mind that nutrition, the habits, and abuse of certain chemicals (Such as HGH, roids...) can outperform genetics to an certain domain.

So my point is that it still DOES something to you. You can't deny enviroment, imagine if you were put on HGH at the age of 9? Like bro..
I think you quoted the wrrong guy, I agree with you in my post
 
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