Ultimate guide to hiding your surgeries and explaining why we have to hide every looksmax we do and how (DNRD copers enter at your own risk)

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So pretty water thread but there are still some retards who are mostly out of touch with reality that think its high inhib and low t to keep your looksmaxxes (both hard and soft maxxes) as a secret.

I read about the opinions of foids if they would rather dating a muscular gym bro or a skinny fat. Most of them say they would prefer that body over a skinny fat but they would not prefer a gym bro, so called, because they say they have dated with gym bros before and they all nag about how strict diet gym bros have, how much time their bf has spends in the gym etc...

As a male you are born with what you look like, you are not even allowed to care what you look like unless you are really good looking, like celebrities. (Even celebs are not safe jfl, you will read below)

I have read countless times on Penismaxxing forums about how their gf, wife called them weirdo etc for doing Penismaxxing despite enjoying their partner's size. (ngl i also read about supportive partners but i think they will atleast label you as insecure in their mind and they will definetly use it later verbally in a fight or she will try to defame you by telling other people that how you are a weirdo that hangs weights to his penis to get a bigger one [ngl its definetly weird but it fucking works so who cares])

This is same for every other looksmax but the consequences are only far more greater when you tell them about a looksmax you did to your face.

Even the smallest looksmaxxes like braces after your teens will make you appear like a tryhard in the eyes of normies if you dont tell them you had it for health purposes...

Ah of course i know based chads of org give zero fuck about what people think. Thats why you pay thousands of dollars to surgeries and have a religious skincare routine and a strict diet along a dedicated gym routine, right?

But for foids its a different story. The top priority for foids in this life looking like they are beautiful, atleast in the western society. So people dont care if foids do makeup, wear wigs, do fillers, skincare etc because its their duty to be beautiful. Result oriented societies doesnt care if a cat is black or white as long as it catches mice. (ngl i am okay with that too, if this is their duty they better do their best)

As a normie male, you can actually go really far in this life with status and money. But you cant do that as a foid. (pro tip : foids are not capable of getting really rich through creating a really succesfull business or rightfully holding positions in an organization or goverment)

You think you can getaway with appearing like a tryhard in the eyes of normies because you somehow look good and fuck cute girls? Thats not enough at all.

But actually some of you guys are true. You may simply not give a fuck if they notice. But why? Give me one fucking reason? You just have to lie cold bloodedly for 30 second, then its done. Nobody will bring it up again. But when you admit that you had a "work" done, you are risking irreversible damages to your relationships with other people for literally zero benefit. Like zero. There is zero benefit in telling people that you are a looksmaxxer etc.

In a world where even celebrities gets called out like crazy when they get exposed for having done a lookmaxxing procedure, its wise to not trust too much on how you look like. All that shit will shatter like a glass when you tell you had a "work" done on your face.

The brutal fact is, even celebrities are not safe from getting called out about surgeries. You ever saw an actor that says he had fillers implants or even a fucking hair transplant? (but high iq low inhib org users know it better than them right? jfl)

So you saw that video? The thing that normies want is making them spill the beans out.

"You have a good body? Its just steroids, i would have a better one if i did steroids too." No you wont retarded, you need frame and insertion genetics.
"Babe all celebs are on roids, so my body is akhchcually pretty good for a natural lifter" :geek:

Do people really think foids will respect them because they have a natural body? Yeah they will lose some respect to people who roid when they learn they roid but they wont give a respect to someone just because he is natural. We are in result oriented society, cheat your way to top but appear like it was just you being born superior.
Normies are being the crab in the bottom of that fucking bucket that lets nobody out, AS ALWAYS.

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Look how that incel paparazzi tries to embarrass Russell
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My response to those normie cucks : If you did not born in a perfect condition, you have to take risk in this, like steroids, finasterid, surgeries etc. If you take risk and succeed, you reap the rewards. If you dont you stay at where you are. I know rich chad never took a single risk in his life but thats life. People are not born equal.

So if you dont want to get into the risk of statusminning yourself, do every looksmax you need to in secrecy as much as you you can. Otherwise you will appear as a tryhard cuck to normies.

Dont get me wrong tho, if you cant hide it, do it anyway but also lie carefully as much as you can.

Actual strategies
The grand strategy is either shutting up if people dont notice anything at all or if they notice it ; you tell that you had no surgery at all and throw some lie other than surgery or even if you say you had it ; you tell it was not for cosmetic purposes.

Frauding is essential for people who were incel-ltn prior to surgery and if the surgery ascends them hard. The better you looked before the surgery the less people will think you had surgery and your lies will be more convincing to people. (brutal halo effect :blackpill::blackpill:)

So the algorithm goes like this :

1- Tell that it was a thing other than surgery, if you think there is high chance of people will be believing in you.
2- Tell that you had it for health purpose.

The important part is you cant jump to second strategy from the first one if the first strategy fails. People will realise you are trying to hide something. So place your bets well.

I suggest you to properly plan and start executing your tactics at least 6 month prior to surgery.
  1. The no brainer number 1 tactic is replacing your social circle with a new one as much as you can.
  2. The second best strategy is to have a lengthy gap between the surgery and the first time you meet with your friends, family etc.
Imo these 2 is better than any other physical fraud you can imagine, the best is to bundle them, then its undefeatable unless your old photos are available to people, but depending solely on lying is kind of risky imo.

One of few benefits (jfl) of being incel, you dont have a social circle prior to surgery (atleast not a genuine one) so you dont have to explain it to many people.

Lies
For facial surgeries that involves solid parts of your face (implants, bimax, genio, rhinoplasty) you can gain a moderate amount of fat until surgery and grow a beard then slowly lose weight and lean out but i advise you to keep the beard for a time to make people complete forget what you looked like before. Dont forget to tell lies when they ask how you got a jawline, tell them you chewed mastic gum etc, you started hitting gym harder and cut the sugar for health. (gym is really a good lie because you know when a normies imagine a gym goer they probebly imagine a shredded dude with cut jawline because thats the type of person used for advertising, modelling etc)

But also, imo, normies know shit about genio or bimax and if you spend moderate time without seeing them its all good. They will probably notice something has changed but they wont understand what happened to your face.

Your last stand is saying that you had it for sleep apnea, better breathing if bimax and your nose changed along due to jaw which is actually true but if you had rhino alone tell them you had deviated septum etc...

Not sure about frauding surgeries that involves eyes but you can say you have a better sleeping routine now, you sleeped in a different position or shits like ptosis and you got that surgery for better vision etc...

Wearing lifts for a long time progressively before LL is good.

For skincare, you can tell you have a healthy diet, get sun everyday, genetics, vitamins&minerals and if they push too hard you can even tell you rub moisturizer or sunscreen sometimes becasue you can lie doctor advised you to avoid cancer or smth.

For hair transplant, just say it to males, not sure about foids. But i strongly advise against talking about your finasteride usage because these drugs are known for having nasty side effects like erectile dysfunction which are partly true but we dont want people to assume you are that 1 in 100 guy and trust me everyone will assume you are that 1 in 100 guy.

Steroids are also same.
Average joe thinks roids are evil, yet he thinks he can achieve jeff seid body with diet, dedication, jfl...
Steroids are insanely portrayed as evil by mass media, even if a foid doesnt believe all that shit, using steroids signalls to foids that you are a gym bro.
Claiming you have good genetics/healthy diet with non processed foods/dedication is mandatory with all the lies you tell. (tell the dedication part only to people in the same gym with you and dont overstate the diet part to anyone except gym bros, just tell the foids you avoid junk food for health and eat homemade foods)
Avoiding compounds that makes you grow overnight is a good preventive strategy. (dianabol, superdrol, anadrol, deca or npp idk)

For both natties and roiders that dont want to admit that they are going to gym :
  1. Imo the best one is telling you dont even go to gym and you have lift heavy shit because of your work xd. But but you cant do that if you are a white collar. When i start roiding i plan to tell them i lift heavy shit in our rural home.
  2. But if they dont believe then you can just tell you did bodyweight exercises at home. Normies overrate so much what you can achieve with bodyweight exercises. If they dont believe tell them you have bought a pair of dumbbells, ab wheel and a pull-up bar. (Tell that you never ever used protein powder and you just eat homemade meals, this actually really matters for foids who doesnt know a single thing about gym, they thinks its unhealthy gives you serious diseases etc) (but most importantly, for foids, using protein powder = number 1 gym bro trait) (you may actually even give a feeling of doubt to normies who thinks you are not natural after you tell them you do redpill shit like you know eating organs, getting a sunlight etc, but never ever tell these organ shit to foids)
  3. Then if people actually know that you go to gym just tell them you did a sport other than lifting before and tell you just go once or twice a week and say you only do cardio to maintain condition&health and guide newbies. (dont forget to tell that you are going to planet fitness or some utter normie scum gym that where 50 yo grannies with cellulitises doing cardio for half hour and calling it a day)
  4. Tell them you actually have some some health problem and doctor advised you to lift light weights and you dont use shits like protein power (low bone density, muscle disthropy, spine thing etc)

You must be a wolf in a sheeps clothing.

Dont forget these are just dickmaxxing and gym, can you even imagine how they would react to a facial intervention?
Told my Gf tonight before the device arrived and the response was not what I expected. She's basically shamed the idea of guys owning a dick pump as it's 'de-masculating and embarrassing ' as she puts it.
Anyway she has found the pump today and basically said if there's a problem I should get proper help, otherwise it's got no place in a marriage.
As I proceed to walk out after hearing that she said something like “why do you need to make your dick bigger are you messing around with guys, are you gay?”
The thing is, every time a girl is interested in me and we start to date they quickly start to get annoyed by the fact that im extremely picky or selective with my food. I don't drink, I don't eat trash food, etc. They think that im a weirdo or something like that.
My wife was sitting next to me and suddenly asked “why do you have a water bottle hanging off the bottom of the desk?” “Do you really wanna know?” … “stretching things?” “Pretty much.” “Weirdo”.
Yeah I went out with this gorgeous shredded man a few times, but he basically didn’t eat anything that tasted good 😭 Which was fine cause we could still find good restaurants we wanted to go to, I stopped seeing him bc he was antisemitic lol
based antisemitic king 💪💪
I doesn’t always go well, my ex was disgusted and grossed out, shamed me , called me a freak, a weirdo for doing this, yet made backhanded comments about me having a small dick. Can’t win sometimes
Law 30: Make Your Accomplishments Seem Effortless

Your actions must seem natural and executed with ease. All the toil and practice that go into them, and also all the clever tricks, must be concealed. When you act, act effortlessly, as if you could do much more. Avoid the temptation of revealing how hard you work — it only raises questions. Teach no one your tricks or they will be used against you.

Read and understand how society uses "morality" as a weapon against people who works their way to leave their current social class behind.
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this shit is same in the all parts of life. People really think there is not much difference between the economically top %1 and them, they think if they wanted to be in %1 they would be in %1 because they think all it takes is just being corrupt etc. Really bro? You think its really that easy? Most people are downright evil and would get involved in every corruption you can imagine if the reward outweights the risk of losses.
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Sorry if i forgot to tag you, i will tag you next time :feelsyay::feelsyay::feelsyay:
 
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Take the mmachiavellian pill bros :feelsyay: :feelsyay: :feelsyay:

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nice read quickly with skips
but all this dont apply to me
 
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Or just be a sigma without friends 🐺
 
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one of your highest quality threads so far.
 
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The easiest way to get a girl is to get money dude looks are hard to change and fixed
 
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Looks maxing pass the basics only is viable in very wealthy socialist societies

2nd world capitalistic hell holes money and status reign
 
Based thread tbh. A girl in another faculty I’ve been speaking to sent me photo of tequila shots and I said ‘you are doing shots and not calling me??’ (obviously not in an autist way like this but this is what I meant) and she said I don’t look like someone who drinks shots of tequila. Fucking brutal. Gonna have to change my personality and get some tats jfl.
 
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For rhino I plan to tell people deviated septum or it was due to a boxing injury
 
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So pretty water thread but there are still some retards who are mostly out of touch with reality that think its high inhib and low t to keep your looksmaxxes (both hard and soft maxxes) as a secret.

I read about the opinions of foids if they would rather dating a muscular gym bro or a skinny fat. Most of them say they would prefer that body over a skinny fat but they would not prefer a gym bro, so called, because they say they have dated with gym bros before and they all nag about how strict diet gym bros have, how much time their bf has spends in the gym etc...

As a male you are born with what you look like, you are not even allowed to care what you look like unless you are really good looking, like celebrities. (Even celebs are not safe jfl, you will read below)

I have read countless times on Penismaxxing forums about how their gf, wife called them weirdo etc for doing Penismaxxing despite enjoying their partner's size. (ngl i also read about supportive partners but i think they will atleast label you as insecure in their mind and they will definetly use it later verbally in a fight or she will try to defame you by telling other people that how you are a weirdo that hangs weights to his penis to get a bigger one [ngl its definetly weird but it fucking works so who cares])

This is same for every other looksmax but the consequences are only far more greater when you tell them about a looksmax you did to your face.

Even the smallest looksmaxxes like braces after your teens will make you appear like a tryhard in the eyes of normies if you dont tell them you had it for health purposes...

Ah of course i know based chads of org give zero fuck about what people think. Thats why you pay thousands of dollars to surgeries and have a religious skincare routine and a strict diet along a dedicated gym routine, right?

But for foids its a different story. The top priority for foids in this life looking like they are beautiful, atleast in the western society. So people dont care if foids do makeup, wear wigs, do fillers, skincare etc because its their duty to be beautiful. Result oriented societies doesnt care if a cat is black or white as long as it catches mice. (ngl i am okay with that too, if this is their duty they better do their best)

As a normie male, you can actually go really far in this life with status and money. But you cant do that as a foid. (pro tip : foids are not capable of getting really rich through creating a really succesfull business or rightfully holding positions in an organization or goverment)

You think you can getaway with appearing like a tryhard in the eyes of normies because you somehow look good and fuck cute girls? Thats not enough at all.

But actually some of you guys are true. You may simply not give a fuck if they notice. But why? Give me one fucking reason? You just have to lie cold bloodedly for 30 second, then its done. Nobody will bring it up again. But when you admit that you had a "work" done, you are risking irreversible damages to your relationships with other people for literally zero benefit. Like zero. There is zero benefit in telling people that you are a looksmaxxer etc.

In a world where even celebrities gets called out like crazy when they get exposed for having done a lookmaxxing procedure, its wise to not trust too much on how you look like. All that shit will shatter like a glass when you tell you had a "work" done on your face.

The brutal fact is, even celebrities are not safe from getting called out about surgeries. You ever saw an actor that says he had fillers implants or even a fucking hair transplant? (but high iq low inhib org users know it better than them right? jfl)

So you saw that video? The thing that normies want is making them spill the beans out.

"You have a good body? Its just steroids, i would have a better one if i did steroids too." No you wont retarded, you need frame and insertion genetics.
"Babe all celebs are on roids, so my body is akhchcually pretty good for a natural lifter" :geek:

Do people really think foids will respect them because they have a natural body? Yeah they will lose some respect to people who roid when they learn they roid but they wont give a respect to someone just because he is natural. We are in result oriented society, cheat your way to top but appear like it was just you being born superior.
Normies are being the crab in the bottom of that fucking bucket that lets nobody out, AS ALWAYS.

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Look how that incel paparazzi tries to embarrass Russell
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My response to those normie cucks : If you did not born in a perfect condition, you have to take risk in this, like steroids, finasterid, surgeries etc. If you take risk and succeed, you reap the rewards. If you dont you stay at where you are. I know rich chad never took a single risk in his life but thats life. People are not born equal.

So if you dont want to get into the risk of statusminning yourself, do every looksmax you need to in secrecy as much as you you can. Otherwise you will appear as a tryhard cuck to normies.

Dont get me wrong tho, if you cant hide it, do it anyway but also lie carefully as much as you can.

Actual strategies
The grand strategy is either shutting up if people dont notice anything at all or if they notice it ; you tell that you had no surgery at all and throw some lie other than surgery or even if you say you had it ; you tell it was not for cosmetic purposes.

Frauding is essential for people who were incel-ltn prior to surgery and if the surgery ascends them hard. The better you looked before the surgery the less people will think you had surgery and your lies will be more convincing to people. (brutal halo effect :blackpill::blackpill:)

So the algorithm goes like this :

1- Tell that it was a thing other than surgery, if you think there is high chance of people will be believing in you.
2- Tell that you had it for health purpose.

The important part is you cant jump to second strategy from the first one if the first strategy fails. People will realise you are trying to hide something. So place your bets well.

I suggest you to properly plan and start executing your tactics at least 6 month prior to surgery.
  1. The no brainer number 1 tactic is replacing your social circle with a new one as much as you can.
  2. The second best strategy is to have a lengthy gap between the surgery and the first time you meet with your friends, family etc.
Imo these 2 is better than any other physical fraud you can imagine, the best is to bundle them, then its undefeatable unless your old photos are available to people, but depending solely on lying is kind of risky imo.

One of few benefits (jfl) of being incel, you dont have a social circle prior to surgery (atleast not a genuine one) so you dont have to explain it to many people.

Lies
For facial surgeries that involves solid parts of your face (implants, bimax, genio, rhinoplasty) you can gain a moderate amount of fat until surgery and grow a beard then slowly lose weight and lean out but i advise you to keep the beard for a time to make people complete forget what you looked like before. Dont forget to tell lies when they ask how you got a jawline, tell them you chewed mastic gum etc, you started hitting gym harder and cut the sugar for health. (gym is really a good lie because you know when a normies imagine a gym goer they probebly imagine a shredded dude with cut jawline because thats the type of person used for advertising, modelling etc)

But also, imo, normies know shit about genio or bimax and if you spend moderate time without seeing them its all good. They will probably notice something has changed but they wont understand what happened to your face.

Your last stand is saying that you had it for sleep apnea, better breathing if bimax and your nose changed along due to jaw which is actually true but if you had rhino alone tell them you had deviated septum etc...

Not sure about frauding surgeries that involves eyes but you can say you have a better sleeping routine now, you sleeped in a different position or shits like ptosis and you got that surgery for better vision etc...

Wearing lifts for a long time progressively before LL is good.

For skincare, you can tell you have a healthy diet, get sun everyday, genetics, vitamins&minerals and if they push too hard you can even tell you rub moisturizer or sunscreen sometimes becasue you can lie doctor advised you to avoid cancer or smth.

For hair transplant, just say it to males, not sure about foids. But i strongly advise against talking about your finasteride usage because these drugs are known for having nasty side effects like erectile dysfunction which are partly true but we dont want people to assume you are that 1 in 100 guy and trust me everyone will assume you are that 1 in 100 guy.

Steroids are also same.
Average joe thinks roids are evil, yet he thinks he can achieve jeff seid body with diet, dedication, jfl...
Steroids are insanely portrayed as evil by mass media, even if a foid doesnt believe all that shit, using steroids signalls to foids that you are a gym bro.
Claiming you have good genetics/healthy diet with non processed foods/dedication is mandatory with all the lies you tell. (tell the dedication part only to people in the same gym with you and dont overstate the diet part to anyone except gym bros, just tell the foids you avoid junk food for health and eat homemade foods)
Avoiding compounds that makes you grow overnight is a good preventive strategy. (dianabol, superdrol, anadrol, deca or npp idk)

For both natties and roiders that dont want to admit that they are going to gym :
  1. Imo the best one is telling you dont even go to gym and you have lift heavy shit because of your work xd. But but you cant do that if you are a white collar. When i start roiding i plan to tell them i lift heavy shit in our rural home.
  2. But if they dont believe then you can just tell you did bodyweight exercises at home. Normies overrate so much what you can achieve with bodyweight exercises. If they dont believe tell them you have bought a pair of dumbbells, ab wheel and a pull-up bar. (Tell that you never ever used protein powder and you just eat homemade meals, this actually really matters for foids who doesnt know a single thing about gym, they thinks its unhealthy gives you serious diseases etc) (but most importantly, for foids, using protein powder = number 1 gym bro trait) (you may actually even give a feeling of doubt to normies who thinks you are not natural after you tell them you do redpill shit like you know eating organs, getting a sunlight etc, but never ever tell these organ shit to foids)
  3. Then if people actually know that you go to gym just tell them you did a sport other than lifting before and tell you just go once or twice a week and say you only do cardio to maintain condition&health and guide newbies. (dont forget to tell that you are going to planet fitness or some utter normie scum gym that where 50 yo grannies with cellulitises doing cardio for half hour and calling it a day)
  4. Tell them you actually have some some health problem and doctor advised you to lift light weights and you dont use shits like protein power (low bone density, muscle disthropy, spine thing etc)

You must be a wolf in a sheeps clothing.

Dont forget these are just dickmaxxing and gym, can you even imagine how they would react to a facial intervention?






based antisemitic king 💪💪
Read and understand how society uses "morality" as a weapon against people who works their way to leave their current social class behind.
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this shit is same in the all parts of life. People really think there is not much difference between the economically top %1 and them, they think if they wanted to be in %1 they would be in %1 because they think all it takes is just being corrupt etc. Really bro? You think its really that easy? Most people are downright evil and would get involved in every corruption you can imagine if the reward outweights the risk of losses.
@PacinoCel @Manchild @Moggie @softlysoftly @Oberyn @seth @ReadBooksEveryday @xxxxxxxxxxxxxx @beatEMinGTA @szolliontaraelis @juste @feelgood @LooksOrDeath @HighClassMaxing @rand anon
Sorry if i forgot to tag you, i will tag you next time :feelsyay: dndr.
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dnrd water.
 
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I've read everything and i agree, good thread.
People will despise you if you try to improve yourself in any way, people won't blame you by a lot if you get braces or lenses because this is very common but they will blame you for sure if you get surgeries or inject roids.
This is why ascending between 15 and 20 is the best thing, if you become a chad at 18 most people will think that your improvement is due to puberty while if you become suddenly a chad at like 27 everyone will guess that you get surgeries and you will get blamed.
 
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I've read everything and i agree, good thread.
People will despise you if you try to improve yourself in any way, people won't blame you by a lot if you get braces or lenses because this is very common but they will blame you for sure if you get surgeries or inject roids.
This is why ascending between 15 and 20 is the best thing, if you become a chad at 18 most people will think that your improvement is due to puberty while if you become suddenly a chad at like 27 everyone will guess that you get surgeries and you will get blamed.
you could just be considered a late bloomer past 20
 
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I've read everything and i agree, good thread.
People will despise you if you try to improve yourself in any way, people won't blame you by a lot if you get braces or lenses because this is very common but they will blame you for sure if you get surgeries or inject roids.
This is why ascending between 15 and 20 is the best thing, if you become a chad at 18 most people will think that your improvement is due to puberty while if you become suddenly a chad at like 27 everyone will guess that you get surgeries and you will get blamed.
you could just be considered a late bloomer past 20
You dont even need to lie if you did not see a person since like when you were 22-23 and you meet with them when you are 26-27, people's face still change significantly through their 20s.
 
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you could just be considered a late bloomer past 20
Most people don't even know what a late puberty is, and a late puberty cannot justify really drastic changes past 20 anyway.
 
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You dont even need to lie if you did not see a person since like when you were 22-23 and you meet with them when you are 26-27, people's face still change significantly through their 20s.
Yes this is true but rarely in a good way, most people get uglier through their 20s and not the opposite.
 
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Just say late puberty or fat loss

Good strategy can be be a bulked bloated joke while you grind/looksmaxx and after all the surgeries/bulking you cut and claim that your bone structure has always been beneath the lard
 
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Most people don't even know what a late puberty is, and a late puberty cannot justify really drastic changes past 20 anyway.
i feel like it is the first thing a person would guess about a guy who looks better as he ages, as that is what most normies think. My plan is to just bulk and grow a beard before surgery and then lean down afterwards. For my rhino I will just say that I got it cause I have a broken nose cause I do and cant fking breath.
And I said late bloomer and it can justify it tbh, you cant say late puberty though. Just say "idk I guess I'm just getting older"
 
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based thread

got a rhinoplasty? I just fixed my broken nose

leg lengthening? my family is full of late bloomers

jaw surgery? I just lost weight and shaved my beard
 
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I do agree but how do you keep it a secret when its your FACE man.

Literally everyone in my social circles noticed my bimax to the point where they barely recognized me and I had to come up with functional bs like sleep apnea surgery

How will I justify the IMPLANTS jfl, jaw surgery revision? Ofc im not gonna say I traveled to another country and what I did exactly but I know its going to be obvious once again and everyone will ask me about it.
 
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I do agree but how do you keep it a secret when its your FACE man.

Literally everyone in my social circles noticed my bimax to the point where they barely recognized me and I had to come up with functional bs like sleep apnea surgery

How will I justify the IMPLANTS jfl, jaw surgery revision? Ofc im not gonna say I traveled to another country and what I did exactly but I know its going to be obvious once again and everyone will ask me about it.
bulk up hard after surgery i guess.

and it kind of disappointed me if normies can notice that you got bimax :feelsrope: :feelsrope: :feelsrope:
 
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Good strategy can be be a bulked bloated joke while you grind/looksmaxx and after all the surgeries/bulking you cut and claim that your bone structure has always been beneath the lard
Might as well just say that after my implants

"Ive just cut my carb intake bro, my bones were just hiding" :lul:
 
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Might as well just say that after my implants

"Ive just cut my carb intake bro, my bones were just hiding" :lul:
do you use steroids? I think you can do an insanely bloat inducing cycle.
 
i feel like it is the first thing a person would guess about a guy who looks better as he ages, as that is what most normies think. My plan is to just bulk and grow a beard before surgery and then lean down afterwards. For my rhino I will just say that I got it cause I have a broken nose cause I do and cant fking breath.
And I said late bloomer and it can justify it tbh, you cant say late puberty though. Just say "idk I guess I'm just getting older"
Using puberty as a justification is legit and i do it myself when people ask me why py face changed but past a certain age you can't use it, i mean it's very unlikely to have a late puberty at 24, this is why i considered the range between 15 and 20 as the best window for ascension, the more older you get and the more suspicious people will be toward any drastic facial change (especially considering the fact that the vast majority of people don't age well and get uglier with time).
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"It's puberty bro"
 

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do you use steroids? I think you can do an insanely bloat inducing cycle.
Nope. But I will consider it if the implants really make a drastic change tbh
 
Using puberty as a justification is legit and i do it myself when people ask me why py face changed but past a certain age you can't use it, i mean it's very unlikely to have a late puberty at 24, this is why i considered the range between 15 and 20 as the best window for ascension, the more older you get and the more suspicious people will be toward any drastic facial change (especially considering the fact that the vast majority of people don't age well and get uglier with time).
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"It's puberty bro"
if you can get surgeries before 20 good for you tbh. I will have to larp as a late bloomer.
 
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Do you look ethnic?
Nah, I’m pale white with red/pink/blue undertones and black hair. I don’t even look hight trust too jfl. She might’ve said it just because idk.
 
people won't blame you by a lot if you get braces or lenses because this is very common
idk tbh but here, but people here would definetly act like you are weirdo if you get it when you are an adult.
 
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I do agree but how do you keep it a secret when its your FACE man.

Literally everyone in my social circles noticed my bimax to the point where they barely recognized me and I had to come up with functional bs like sleep apnea surgery

How will I justify the IMPLANTS jfl, jaw surgery revision? Ofc im not gonna say I traveled to another country and what I did exactly but I know its going to be obvious once again and everyone will ask me about it.
This is why I’m getting everything done in one surgery. Though I’m being very conservative with the implants so that I don’t end up botched
 
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gaslight normies all day every day
 
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It's a good thread, but I can bet OP is obsessively theorize-maxxing and not walking the walk.
 
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Does it look bad for a man to apply sunblock? I’m not sure how to hide that since my sunblock is very opaque.
 
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Does it look bad for a man to apply sunblock? I’m not sure how to hide that since my sunblock is very opaque.
I dont know much about sun protection but can you use something less obvious? if yes its certainly better.

if you cant tell them your doctor said you to use it because you have a high chance of getting a skin disease because of sun.
 
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Great thread
Always hide or downplay softmaxxes and lie abt hardmaxxes
 
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If people say "you look like you workout" I say "oh those are just bones" and then place their hand on my clavicle or ribcage so they can feel there is actually not much muscle there.
 
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If people say "you look like you workout" I say "oh those are just bones" and then place their hand on my clavicle or ribcage so they can feel there is actually not much muscle there.
they really believe it? how does your body look like?
 
they really believe it? how does your body look like?
Yes because I don't have a crazy amount of muscle, just blessed with good clavicles and ribcage. So when they think there's gonna be crazy pec and shoulder mass and they feel bone they are surprised. Some of these guys have more muscle than me jfl
 
HQ post thank you anti semetic king
 
 
real life example from a forum user
Met many girls like this irl. I got rejected indirectly multiple times because she deemed me too high maintenance after I talked about my healthy lifestyle

Lots of girls would rather settle with an out of shape normie so she can keep him on leash
 
insane thread quality

amazing machiavelli quotes
 
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Real shit OP. People love to gossip and talk shit on you, unless you moneymaxx as a dude

I learned the hard way when I started taking steroids. Once the cats out the bag, it’s not going back in. And everyone has formed an opinion.
 
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