Being an ugly woman is just as bad if not worse than being an ugly man

[Deleted member 18159]

Yes, even as an ugly woman you will still get sex from men and will always receive sympathy from society as a whole, but women always get that by default and it’s not meaningful to them. Women ideally want to be in an LTR with Chad. This is pretty much unattainable for an ugly women. Imagine being exclusively attracted to the top 5-10% of men and literally none of them want to commit to you or be seen with you. Meanwhile your more attractive friends are always hooking up with Chad and spending quality time with him in an LTR. Must be utter suifuel being an ugly woman. At least men can create value for themselves with money and status. An ugly man can become rich and high status and people will respect him somewhat. Women can’t do this. They are judged pretty much entirely for their looks.

 

[GetShrekt]

Just ignore, favour in divorce courts, better grades in school, lesser sentencing for the same crime, more access/priority to healthcare, lesser expectations of success, better dating prospects than your looks match and men 2 points above you.

 

[Deleted member 17531]

there's been incel studies on this actually, and its proven fact thats its better to be a sub3 male than sub3 female

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Just ignore, favour in divorce courts, better grades in school, lesser sentencing for the same crime, more access/priority to healthcare, lesser expectations of success, better dating prospects than your looks match and men 2 points above you.

Yeah, that’s all true, but women take all of those things for granted anyways. Imagine being some 2psl ethnic landwhale in the west and you open TikTok and are flooded with videos of 7PSL Sorority girl Stacies. I don’t know if I could cope with that tbh. Jealousy is a very strong emotion for women.

 

[GetShrekt]

Yeah, that’s all true, but women take all of those things for granted anyways. Imagine being some 2psl ethnic landwhale in the west and you open TikTok and are flooded with videos of 7PSL Sorority girl Stacies. I don’t know if I could cope with that tbh. Jealousy is a very strong emotion for women.

Bitches suck. I could actually see that happenning smh.

 

[lutte]

At least men can create value for themselves with money and status. An ugly man can become rich and high status

 

[juste]

didnt read but being much more beautiful than women in general will get punished by them

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Rotter cope

 

[GetShrekt]

there's been incel studies on this actually, and its proven fact thats its better to be a sub3 male than sub3 female

Link?

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Yes, even as an ugly woman you will still get sex from men and will always receive sympathy from society as a whole, but women always get that by default and it’s not meaningful to them.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Rotter cope

no one gives a fuck about bill gates and jeff bezos (high status males) except tech nerd incels. women who are with them are just there for the money and to get into the spotlight.

 

[DesperadoRatado]

being ugly is bad? WET

muh racism muh homophobia muh sexism

lets talk about REAL DISCRIMINATION. Living life as a turboogre

 

[Deleted member 18159]

being ugly is bad? WET

muh racism muh homophobia muh sexism

lets talk about REAL DISCRIMINATION. Living life as a turboogre

Life sucks for both ugly men and ugly women, just in different ways. It’s the ultimate form of suffering to be born ugly. Incels here are obsessed with having a victim complex tho and can’t accept that other people can have it just as bad as them.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Life sucks for both ugly men and ugly women, just in different ways. It’s the ultimate form of suffering to be born ugly. Incels here are obsessed with having a victim complex tho and can’t accept that other people can have it just as bad as them.

the difference is that most men are considered physically unattractive while most women are considered physically attractive

 

[Deleted member 18159]

the difference is that most men are considered physically unattractive while most women are considered physically attractive

True, but it’s all about perspective. Women are spoiled shitless from birth and only want Chad. Not getting Chad for a woman is the equivalent of not getting sex for a man. Incels base their entire perspective off of not getting laid and extrapolate. Incels beleive that anyone that can get laid must somehow have an easy life because it is the basis of their struggles.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

True, but it’s all about perspective. Women are spoiled shitless from birth and only want Chad. Not getting Chad for a woman is the equivalent of not getting sex for a man.

exactly

 

[Deleted member 17311]

Not rlly tbh, being an ugly male is still gigaworse than an ugly women. vagina = infinite SMV and attention, females control sexual selection

PLUS YOU FORGOT ONE THING OP, Its easier to ascend as a foid than as a man, just lose weight, wear makeup or get rhino and you will ATLEAST get a chadlite or HTN for LTR. Meanwhile men have to take into account, bf%, gymmaxx, sleep, HEIGHT, FRAME, DICK, masculine facial features and so much more.

TLDR : It's infintely better to become an ugly women than an ugly man since you can ascend more easily

 

[Deleted member 18849]

Yes because facial looks are more important for women than men. If you're a man you can compensate a bit with height, wealth, humor, skill etc. Add the fact that agepill hits women harder than men, a woman being young, good looking and fertile is everything.

 

[playboicarti]

Yes, even as an ugly woman you will still get sex from men and will always receive sympathy from society as a whole, but women always get that by default and it’s not meaningful to them. Women ideally want to be in an LTR with Chad. This is pretty much unattainable for an ugly women. Imagine being exclusively attracted to the top 5-10% of men and literally none of them want to commit to you or be seen with you. Meanwhile your more attractive friends are always hooking up with Chad and spending quality time with him in an LTR. Must be utter suifuel being an ugly woman. At least men can create value for themselves with money and status. An ugly man can become rich and high status and people will respect him somewhat. Women can’t do this. They are judged pretty much entirely for their looks.

thats true my female friend looks ugly af and she's more miserable than my ugly friend

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Not rlly tbh, being an ugly male is still gigaworse than an ugly women. vagina = infinite SMV and attention, females control sexual selection

PLUS YOU FORGOT ONE THING OP, Its easier to ascend as a foid than as a man, just lose weight, wear makeup or get rhino and you will ATLEAST get a chadlite or HTN for LTR. Meanwhile men have to take into account, bf%, gymmaxx, sleep, HEIGHT, FRAME, DICK, masculine facial features and so much more.

TLDR : It's infintely better to become an ugly women than an ugly man since you can ascend more easily

At the objective level, women do have it easier than men in the modern age, but it terms of overall suffering, men and women suffer equally because their needs are different and equally hard to meet. Incels just have a massive victim complex that blinds them from reality and leads them to believe that sex = everything and therefore women have it easy. When you look at the statistics, men and women are equally unhappy in the modern era. This is the point I am trying to make with this thread.

 

[Deleted member 17311]

At the objective level, women do have it easier than men in the modern age, but it terms of overall suffering, men and women suffer equally because their needs are different and equally hard to meet. Incels just have a massive victim complex that blinds them from reality and leads them to believe that sex = everything and therefore women have it easy. When you look at the statistics, men and women are equally unhappy in the modern era. This is the point I am trying to make with this thread.

what im saying is it's better for to be an ugly woman than a ugly man simply due to the fact that its vastly easier to ascend as an ugly woman compared to an ugly male.

 

[GetShrekt]

True, but it’s all about perspective. Women are spoiled shitless from birth and only want Chad. Not getting Chad for a woman is the equivalent of not getting sex for a man. Incels base their entire perspective off of not getting laid and extrapolate. Incels beleive that anyone that can get laid must somehow have an easy life because it is the basis of their struggles.

 

[Deleted member 18159]

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Women attempt suicide more often, men just use more lethal methods

 

[GetShrekt]

Women attempt suicide more often, men just use more lethal methods

That's just roastie cope, 'attempt' = swallow two paracetemol pills and post on twitter.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Women attempt suicide more often, men just use more lethal methods

Trying suicide with non-lethal means shouldn't be seen as a suicide attempt, but as a form of self-harm.

I am not suprised women do more -official- self-harm than men, because they are far more likely to get social support and help with their struggles.

Men still self-harm far more than women. We just do it with alcohol and drug abuse, because we know nobody gives a fuck about our issues.

 

[Xangsane]

Yes, even as an ugly woman you will still get sex from men and will always receive sympathy from society as a whole, but women always get that by default and it’s not meaningful to them. Women ideally want to be in an LTR with Chad. This is pretty much unattainable for an ugly women. Imagine being exclusively attracted to the top 5-10% of men and literally none of them want to commit to you or be seen with you. Meanwhile your more attractive friends are always hooking up with Chad and spending quality time with him in an LTR. Must be utter suifuel being an ugly woman. At least men can create value for themselves with money and status. An ugly man can become rich and high status and people will respect him somewhat. Women can’t do this. They are judged pretty much entirely for their looks.

That's why women pile on the makeup and insult one another if they both wear the exact same red dress and red lipstick on a formal occasion

 

[Xangsane]

At the objective level, women do have it easier than men in the modern age, but it terms of overall suffering, men and women suffer equally because their needs are different and equally hard to meet. Incels just have a massive victim complex that blinds them from reality and leads them to believe that sex = everything and therefore women have it easy. When you look at the statistics, men and women are equally unhappy in the modern era. This is the point I am trying to make with this thread.

I've tried time and time again that a woman's value is based on the value of man she can get to COMMIT, not for hookups only, because that's what women want.
Some men say that women have it easy in dating, but their story is a totally different ballgame (they want a man, a high value chad, to COMMIT) rather than to fuck (that's why men say women have it easy)

 

[Deleted member 18159]

That's why women pile on the makeup and insult one another if they both wear the exact same red dress and red lipstick on a formal occasion

I've tried time and time again that a woman's value is based on the value of man she can get to COMMIT, not for hookups only, because that's what women want.

High IQ. Rotters here will disagree tho

 

[Xangsane]

Not rlly tbh, being an ugly male is still gigaworse than an ugly women. vagina = infinite SMV and attention, females control sexual selection

PLUS YOU FORGOT ONE THING OP, Its easier to ascend as a foid than as a man, just lose weight, wear makeup or get rhino and you will ATLEAST get a chadlite or HTN for LTR. Meanwhile men have to take into account, bf%, gymmaxx, sleep, HEIGHT, FRAME, DICK, masculine facial features and so much more.

TLDR : It's infintely better to become an ugly women than an ugly man since you can ascend more easily

Women attempt suicide more often, men just use more lethal methods

Have a look at this foidfish I tried on Bumble with a top education. Men (even Chads) were sending very long, non-sexual messages to her:

Is this couple looksmatched? (Educationmaxxed foid and her average Bumble match)

Educationmaxxed foid (cancer scientist) Average male match on Bumble It should also be noted that almost all of her male matches chose not to have sexual conversations with her. Instead, they asked about things on her profile or they began the conversations with some "deep thought"...

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First impressions of this foid?

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This is what all women want.

 

[Xangsane]

High IQ. Rotters here will disagree tho

Exactly why women recently got very upset and angry about Hinge introducing a "dating intentions" section - women admitted they go on Hinge because they are exclusively looking for an LTR, only to be filled with subhuman or normie profiles clearly looking for sex. Some see it as a dating app where men go on because they failed to get hookups on Tinder or Bumble. Some women even report men on Hinge who look for casual as "it breaks the terms of service".

You may find some of these threads useful:

Hinge now has a "dating intentions section"; 97% of women on it are trash.

Many women over the age of 25 are commenting on it, saying that it defeats the purpose of the app as it was an app designed for LTRs and complained that most men are just looking for casual. Here are the women complaining: One woman admits to reporting men looking for casual and...

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I sat my standardscel sister (overweight MTB) down this evening to talk about the boys she wants. Is it over for her?

I had an idea this evening, so after Iftar I sat with her in her bedroom to talk about her dating experiences. For your information: She is currently PSL 4 due to being overweight. Before, she was around PSL 4.75. Before becoming overweight, dyeing her hair pink, and getting a septum piercing...

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Discussion with black foid colleague: "all women on dating apps, even Hinge, are not worth it and are setting themselves up to be pumped and dumped"

During lunch break, I had a discussion on dating apps with a Christian Nigerian-origin (but born in the UK) female colleague. She was UNBELIEVABLY BASED with her opinion on dating apps. She said Hinge and Tinder are no different to one another, and should only be seen as fuck apps. Hinge...

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What I believe is the maximum PSL of a guy that a woman of each looks level could successfully LTR.

We all know that it is almost every woman's dream, whether she's a subhuman or a Stacy, to lock down a Chad for a committed LTR. Ideally, she would marry said Chad, reproduce and die with him. We also know that it is within feminine nature to want romantic, expensive dates, leading to an LTR...

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[AUTISTIC REBUTTAL] PSL 6 Chads have too many options to settle for a PSL 5 foid (In response to the Hookup/Relationship Value chart made by @HFan0)

In response to a thread made by @HFan01 https://looksmax.org/threads/male-attractiveness-vs-female-attractiveness-comparison-chart-oc-autism.466103/ I wanted to bring this up with you lads since we had a talk on whether Chads or Stacies have better lives, and most of you say that Chads have...

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Can this white Reddit foid hypothetically get in an LTR with this guy?

Let's just put this here.... Her: Him: Let's assume both work in STEM, have a Master's in a STEM subject and work for above-average salary for their age group. Can this foid get into an LTR with this guy?

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This 22 y/o Aussie Reddit foid looking for an LTR complains about being ghosted after sex ALL THE TIME!

This Australian foid started dating at 22 and is looking for an LTR on dating apps. She's complaining constantly about being ghosted. What's the problem here?

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What are your thoughts on women using dating apps exclusively for LTRs, especially Hinge?

Title Sometimes I come across women who use dating apps exclusively for relationships as stated on their bio. 90% of the time, these women are below PSL 4.5/MTBs or below. One white Jewish foid (Stacylite) I talked to on Vindicta a few months back before I was kicked out for verifying with the...

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Time and time I prove again that women have different dating goals than men. It's wired within them biologically to want an LTR with a Chadlite or Chad, however, not all women can get this; she'd have to be absolutely exceptional to get him.

 

[Yliaster]

True, but it’s all about perspective. Women are spoiled shitless from birth and only want Chad. Not getting Chad for a woman is the equivalent of not getting sex for a man. Incels base their entire perspective off of not getting laid and extrapolate. Incels beleive that anyone that can get laid must somehow have an easy life because it is the basis of their struggles.

Modern women today don't even want Chad tho,at least not in the way this forum thinks they do.What modern women today are all striving for is to be bossbabes i.e. they are actually competing with the top men,why do you think they all show off their boyfriends today on social media like he's some type of trophy husband/status symbol,in the past that's what men did with their hot wives,well now the tables are turned and women are becoming the new men and chad is more like an accessory to them

you guys need to get over this "women only want chad" fetish because that simply isn't true today,at least not for women 17+ ,chad is boring to women now,they always want more/better,and what's better to women today is becoming alpha i.e. being strong and independent "i don't need no man" this is the dream that feminism and society has sold them ,which is actually the core reason for the current spike in inceldom and not mainly looks.

 

[Deleted member 18418]

it's not. because if they have boobs/ass still high smv.
on the other side, ugly man with a muscles = still looks like shit

 

[alriodai]

Life sucks for both ugly men and ugly women, just in different ways. It’s the ultimate form of suffering to be born ugly. Incels here are obsessed with having a victim complex tho and can’t accept that other people can have it just as bad as them.

Don’t listen to them. They are autistic and never go outside their home
Ugly women have it waaaay worse. Incels want to be the ultimate victims and dont want other people especially women be below them

 

[Xangsane]

Yes, even as an ugly woman you will still get sex from men and will always receive sympathy from society as a whole, but women always get that by default and it’s not meaningful to them. Women ideally want to be in an LTR with Chad. This is pretty much unattainable for an ugly women. Imagine being exclusively attracted to the top 5-10% of men and literally none of them want to commit to you or be seen with you. Meanwhile your more attractive friends are always hooking up with Chad and spending quality time with him in an LTR. Must be utter suifuel being an ugly woman. At least men can create value for themselves with money and status. An ugly man can become rich and high status and people will respect him somewhat. Women can’t do this. They are judged pretty much entirely for their looks.

The racepill also seems to affect women, in terms of the men they can get commitment from:

Which one of these curry phenos are you NOT open to dating? Last time, they were the most excluded race of foids.

Carried on from here but decided to open up the "curry/Abo" category as they were by far the least popular and most excluded race of women: https://looksmax.org/threads/remade-which-races-of-women-are-you-not-open-to-dating.486790/ Title. I was unable to split them up in the poll last time due...

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[REMADE] Which races of women are you NOT open to dating?

Redirected from here as there was no Asian option: https://looksmax.org/threads/do-you-apply-a-racetax-on-ethnic-women-which-ethnicities-are-you-not-open-to.486787/ Which ethnicities are you NOT open to dating? This could also be interpreted as foids you'd have an ONS with, but won't date. This...

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Curryfoids know they're penalized so they do everything they can to bypass race filters:

Hinge curries listing themselves as "East Asian" to avoid currytax

You cannot make this up. In London and Surrey, I decided to only look at East Asian (noodle) profiles, with the ethnicity preference set as a dealbreaker. Two obvious curryfoids appeared on the Standouts section for noodlefoids, larping as noodle. Curryfoid 1: Curryfoid 2: The second...

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[Deleted member 18159]

Trying suicide with non-lethal means shouldn't be seen as a suicide attempt, but as a form of self-harm.

I am not suprised women do more -official- self-harm than men, because they are far more likely to get social support and help with their struggles.

Men still self-harm far more than women. We just do it with alcohol and drug abuse, because we know nobody gives a fuck about our issues.

I mean, they have the potential to be lethal, but they just aren’t as successful. You can kill yourself by ODing on pills, but it’s far far less likely to kill you that a shotgun blast to the roof of the mouth. You make a good point tho.

 

[Xangsane]

Who Has It Worse In Dating: Men Or Women?

Men think women have it easy. Women think men are all shallow jerks. It's time to end the debate: who has it worse in dating? Men or women?

www.nicknotas.com

 

[MoggerGaston]

I mean, they have the potential to be lethal, but they just aren’t as successful. You can kill yourself by ODing on pills, but it’s far far less likely to kill you that a shotgun blast to the roof of the mouth. You make a good point tho.

There's plenty of toxins, pills that you can take to make 100% sure you die. If you want to die by taking some kind of pill, that's perfectly possible. Choice of the pill you're going to use is critical ofcourse.

 

[Lawton88]

Yes, even as an ugly woman you will still get sex from men and will always receive sympathy from society as a whole, but women always get that by default and it’s not meaningful to them. Women ideally want to be in an LTR with Chad. This is pretty much unattainable for an ugly women. Imagine being exclusively attracted to the top 5-10% of men and literally none of them want to commit to you or be seen with you. Meanwhile your more attractive friends are always hooking up with Chad and spending quality time with him in an LTR. Must be utter suifuel being an ugly woman. At least men can create value for themselves with money and status. An ugly man can become rich and high status and people will respect him somewhat. Women can’t do this. They are judged pretty much entirely for their looks.

Yep I am really feeling bad for 4/10 and below females now. Having to settle for a betabuxxing 5/10 looks male for a LTR must really suck and the fact that having money and a nice career yourself cant help out must really sting. It really must suck when they have to watch their 5/10+ friends leaving with a drunk Chad for a ONS.

 

[Xangsane]

Yep I am really feeling bad for 4/10 and below females now. Having to settle for a betabuxxing 5/10 looks male for a LTR must really suck and the fact that having money and a nice career yourself cant help out must really sting. It really must suck when they have to watch their 5/10+ friends leaving with a drunk Chad for a ONS.

and seething over stacylites and stacies because they got chad to commit

 

[AlexAP]

most women are considered physically attractive

No, they're not. Average women is average, not attractive. Even in that OKCupid study, half of the women were rated below-average (not even average, which means average starts at the top 50th percentile). Of course all women can get sex, but still the majority is not considered attractive.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

No, they're not. Average women is average, not attractive. Even in that OKCupid study, half of the women were rated below-average (not even average, which means average starts at the top 50th percentile). Of course all women can get sex, but still the majority is not considered attractive.

if they can get sex then that literally implies that they are attractive to men

 

[AlexAP]

if they can get sex then that literally implies that they are attractive to men

No. Many men have sex with women they don't consider attractive, that's a fact. They have to settle for what they can get.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

No. Many men have sex with women they don't consider attractive, that's a fact. They have to settle for what they can get.

as do women to a far greater degree. if you can get casual sex, you are attractive to the opposite sex. the average woman can easily get loads of casual sex. the average man can't get any casual sex.

 

[disillusioned]

An ugly man can become rich and high status and people will respect him somewhat.

Maybe this was true in the past but not anymore. In 2022 if you're ugly as a man but also rich, you'll probably be mocked. Consider the way people make fun of characters like Mark Zuckerberg.

 

[faggotchadlite]

Yeah, that’s all true, but women take all of those things for granted anyways. Imagine being some 2psl ethnic landwhale in the west and you open TikTok and are flooded with videos of 7PSL Sorority girl Stacies. I don’t know if I could cope with that tbh. Jealousy is a very strong emotion for women.

ngl it would be much worse to be an ugly bitch than an ugly man

ugly men can still be rich but ugly women cant be rich cause no betabux / marriage/ whoring

and apart from that ugly women are treated much worse at work and cause of the discouragement most of them wont even work

and no one would allow them to be leaders unlike ugly men being leaders all the time


so they cant get plastic surgery that easy , cant betabuxx models cause most male models would rather date a stacy and unlike female models , male models arent seen that often with someone ugly

miserable existence lmfao

 

[faggotchadlite]

as do women to a far greater degree. if you can get casual sex, you are attractive to the opposite sex. the average woman can easily get loads of casual sex. the average man can't get any casual sex.

just cause someone can get something easily doesnt mean they will want it

and just cause getting something is hard for someone doesnt mean they wont get it

not to mention average male can still fuck in a ltr , can buy hookers

 

[Deleted member 18503]

Yes, even as an ugly woman you will still get sex from men and will always receive sympathy from society as a whole, but women always get that by default and it’s not meaningful to them. Women ideally want to be in an LTR with Chad. This is pretty much unattainable for an ugly women. Imagine being exclusively attracted to the top 5-10% of men and literally none of them want to commit to you or be seen with you. Meanwhile your more attractive friends are always hooking up with Chad and spending quality time with him in an LTR. Must be utter suifuel being an ugly woman. At least men can create value for themselves with money and status. An ugly man can become rich and high status and people will respect him somewhat. Women can’t do this. They are judged pretty much entirely for their looks.

Has to be the dumbest shit I’ve read on this site in a while

 

[Deleted member 18159]

Has to be the dumbest shit I’ve read on this site in a while

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[Deleted member 18503]

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My pfp has a higher kdr

 

[Deleted member 18159]

My pfp has a higher kdr

Saint Ted. Mirin that 167 IQ dark triad sigma